Comments on: Apollo or XULRunner - And where’s WPF/E? http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/ An infrequent look at developments in the world of the Flash Platform Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:22:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Apollo or XULRunner - And where’s WPF/E? « Ramblings http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-15983 Apollo or XULRunner - And where’s WPF/E? « Ramblings Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:37:11 +0000 http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-15983 [...] FlashGen.Com .: blog :. » Apollo or XULRunner - And where’s WPF/E? I came across a few interesting articles and documents recently and it got me thinking more about Apollo. As most of us are already aware Apollo is a runtime in development at Adobe allowing the deployment of Flash platform, HTML and or PDF applications onto the desktop. Thus allowing them to operate just like native desktop applications - desktop style titlebars, read / write to the filesystem, custom chrome etc. I’d also assume that integration with external hardware like webcams, printers, scanners etc would be on the cards but we’ll just have to see what they have up their sleeves. However, considering Actionscript already allows access to webcams and microphones it’s not a massive leap of faith or functionality. [...] [...] FlashGen.Com .: blog :. » Apollo or XULRunner - And where’s WPF/E? I came across a few interesting articles and documents recently and it got me thinking more about Apollo. As most of us are already aware Apollo is a runtime in development at Adobe allowing the deployment of Flash platform, HTML and or PDF applications onto the desktop. Thus allowing them to operate just like native desktop applications - desktop style titlebars, read / write to the filesystem, custom chrome etc. I’d also assume that integration with external hardware like webcams, printers, scanners etc would be on the cards but we’ll just have to see what they have up their sleeves. However, considering Actionscript already allows access to webcams and microphones it’s not a massive leap of faith or functionality. [...]

]]> By: Leonardo França » Apollo http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-7349 Leonardo França » Apollo Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:24:57 +0000 http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-7349 [...] http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/ [...] [...] http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/ [...]

]]> By: FlashGen http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-6790 FlashGen Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:20:44 +0000 http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-6790 Thanks for that update Edwin - I will update the post to reflect this. Even though it isn't a XULRunner app I still think it deserves listing as an alternative option while waiting for Apollo. Thanks for that update Edwin - I will update the post to reflect this. Even though it isn’t a XULRunner app I still think it deserves listing as an alternative option while waiting for Apollo.

]]> By: Edwin http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-6789 Edwin Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:17:46 +0000 http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-6789 Screenweaver HX is not build with XUL/XULRunner as part of its core runtime; it's an extension to Neko, written in pure C wrapping the Netscape Flash player plugin, bridging communications from an to Neko using the External Interface. Using the SHWX module with haXe allows for coding Flash interfaced desktop applications in contrary to bundling an SWF with a feature enriched Flash player as traditional swf2exe apps do. Screenweaver HX is not build with XUL/XULRunner as part of its core runtime; it’s an extension to Neko, written in pure C wrapping the Netscape Flash player plugin, bridging communications from an to Neko using the External Interface.

Using the SHWX module with haXe allows for coding Flash interfaced desktop applications in contrary to bundling an SWF with a feature enriched Flash player as traditional swf2exe apps do.

]]> By: brandon http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-5591 brandon Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:17:50 +0000 http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-5591 I've been saying for a while that unless the ajax crowd can wrap their apps for using on the desktop they weren't going to come anywhere near Apollo or a Flash app wrapped in Zinc. They both already have the web/desktop occaisionally connected app ability. There have been some early adopters out there like Songbird who have done just that. Strategically, the good thing Adobe is doing is flooding the market with their frameworks and tools and giving them away. I can't speak for everyone else but that's a really good way of building brand loyalty. If you look comparitively at Apollo's abilities vs. WPF/E, there doesn't seem to be much choice about where to go. Add a wrapper like MDM Zinc to existing Flash/Flex applications on top of that and you've got cross platform/cross OS bases covered. Not to mention the huge gap between Apollo's release date and that of WPF/E. Who's really gonna wait? I'm glad MS is setting up some competition with Adobe. We as developers and designers will be the one's who benefit. I’ve been saying for a while that unless the ajax crowd can wrap their apps for using on the desktop they weren’t going to come anywhere near Apollo or a Flash app wrapped in Zinc. They both already have the web/desktop occaisionally connected app ability. There have been some early adopters out there like Songbird who have done just that.

Strategically, the good thing Adobe is doing is flooding the market with their frameworks and tools and giving them away. I can’t speak for everyone else but that’s a really good way of building brand loyalty. If you look comparitively at Apollo’s abilities vs. WPF/E, there doesn’t seem to be much choice about where to go. Add a wrapper like MDM Zinc to existing Flash/Flex applications on top of that and you’ve got cross platform/cross OS bases covered. Not to mention the huge gap between Apollo’s release date and that of WPF/E. Who’s really gonna wait?

I’m glad MS is setting up some competition with Adobe. We as developers and designers will be the one’s who benefit.

]]> By: Aj http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-5570 Aj Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:18:00 +0000 http://blog.flashgen.com/2006/07/05/apollo-or-xulrunner-and-wheres-wpfe/#comment-5570 I dont think that WPF/E will be limited to Windows, I mean, MS software do have space on Macs like Office and IE. As far as linux goes, MS would take it seriuosly this time... and even though WPF/E is lagging behind ont schedule, I do think, MS is capable of seriously challenging Adobe on this front... and I hope Adobe would take on it the same way, adding rich features and developer functionalities to the Apollo runtime... I dont think that WPF/E will be limited to Windows, I mean, MS software do have space on Macs like Office and IE. As far as linux goes, MS would take it seriuosly this time… and even though WPF/E is lagging behind ont schedule, I do think, MS is capable of seriously challenging Adobe on this front… and I hope Adobe would take on it the same way, adding rich features and developer functionalities to the Apollo runtime…

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